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On Straw Dogs:
“I think it’s fuckin’ sad,” he says. ”Because Charlie thinks this is not rape. He thinks she wants this: “She belongs with me — this is it, here we are, together forever.’ And that look between them when she’s like, Get off me…It kills him.”
Ultimately, though, the lesson he took from the role was “how crazy love can make you.” He says, “I don’t fall often, but I fall hard. And when you fall hard, it takes a while to get up.”
— Alexander Skarsgard (Men’s Journal (Oct. 2011), Scans: StoreMags.com)
I’m sorry, what? It’s sad for the rapist? I hope he meant sad as in pathetic, but that’s still not right. Abhorrent would be better. Atrocious. Horrific. Something that should never happen. Those would be better things to say, not that you pity him. And the lesson is how crazy love can make you. Because the rapist is a victim of love. Because the rapist is just so in love. No, I don’t think so. I realize he’s your character, but the rapist is not the victim. He’s not a sympathetic character. There is never an excuse for rape.
Guys. If he can’t find a way to sympathize with the character, to rationalize him, to make him seem human, how is he supposed to play him? This is all fictional and theoretical. Were there actual people involved, it would be more black and white.
why so much beef? I agree with above rebuttle. well said procrastinationandsarcasm - however I also agree with statement above as well. it’s a tough position.
OH DEAR GODRIC. Get over it girls. Seriously. I understand what he’s saying, that’s why we’re soul mates obviously.
no dude…he’s not the rapist. he LETS her get raped. that’s why he’s talking about “it’s fuckin sad” b/c he lets the woman he loves get raped b/c he thinks “she doesn’t want me, she doesn’t want me protecting her” so he lets it happen.
it’s not really as if they don’t know each other. They have been in a relationship. The lack of communication really screws them over, if you’ll pardon the word usage.
I don’t feel well-versed enough in rape culture to fully answer this, but I’ll try, because I really feel it needs addressing. It’s become less about what Alex said and more about how y’all are reacting to it, or mostly not reacting to it. This is an article based off an interview and things are skewed towards the writer’s bias, however unintentional that may be. Things may have been interpreted differently or rearranged and we’ll never know. However, what was said here is disturbing because it plays into rape culture, which the responses to my comment have also done.
1. He needs to sympathize with the character in order to play him. There’s a difference between trying to get into the mindset of your character and then expressing pity for him later in an interview by saying “it kills him” when his victim gives him a look that says “get off me.” That the lesson he took away from the film is “how crazy love can make you.” Love does not make you rape someone. That is not love; that is overpowering someone, forcing them to do what you want. Violating them sexually and emotionally. You don’t sympathize with that, you act for the character and then denounce everything about him once you’re done. You do not say it’s sad, in any definition of the word, or that the victim’s reaction just kills the rapist. That is sympathizing with the rapist and to some extent, victimizing him to the woman’s rejection.
2. This is fictional and would be different if real people were involved. Real people are involved every day in rape and its effects. Of course how it is portrayed in a film affects how a person seeing the movie would view rape. Pop culture makes impressions on people and depicting rape as just an issue of “miscommunication” is dangerous. Do you not see how this plays in to rape culture? That rape can be a shade of gray and depends on your point of view? No, fiction can be just as harmful to the societal view of rape as the news media describing what a woman was wearing when she was raped. No one asks to be raped and there is no miscommunication. A woman says no, it means no. You push it further, it is rape.
3. Obviously he meant rape is evil and terrible. Really? Because I read: “I think it’s fuckin’ sad,” he says. ”Because Charlie thinks this is not rape. He thinks she wants this: “She belongs with me — this is it, here we are, together forever.’ And that look between them when she’s like, Get off me…It kills him. …Ultimately, though, the lesson he took from the role was “how crazy love can make you.” Emphasis mine. So that’s sad, when talking about his character, and it kills his character, and boy love- it can make you crazy. What about that am I misinterpreting?
4. But they knew each other and it was just miscommunication. From this National Institute of Justice report: “Only 16.7 percent of all female victims and 22.8 percent of all male victims were raped by a stranger. In general, female victims tended to be raped by current or former intimates, defined in this study as spouses, male and female cohabiting partners, dates, boyfriends, and girlfriends.” The other part about him not being the rapist- YES HE IS. He rapes her. She is then afterwards raped by another man, but Charlie rapes Amy.
jesus, are you kidding me with the whole, ‘he needs to find some sort of connection to his character’ shit? there are many, many actors out there who have portrayed really horrific and terrifying people, yet you don’t hear someone who portrayed a child molester, ’ oh yes, it was really hard for him to sell his little 8yr sex toy to his perverted neighbor and have him raped by 15 men, it fuckin’ killed him’ oh yes, makes perfect sense. there is something disturbing about any actor who can make an excuse for such an abhorrent act. this should not even be discussed to begin with, he’s a rapist, who stalked his prey, not a pretty mental picture people.
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I said pretty much the EXACT same thing Alex said in the car on the way home and my friends were like “So you felt bad...
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I completely agree with notjustheblood.
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He obviously isn’t condoning his character’s actions because he is calling it what it is: rape. As an actor he has to...
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Yes, that I agree with. He is not a rape apologist, and it’s pretty clear to anyone who has read the interview. But I am...
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Absolutely — nothing he said was in anyway excusing the rape. He wasn’t calling the rape an act of love, and he isn’t...
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Apparently notjusttheblood and luvtheviking missed my reply, which used none of the personal depictions to which you...
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Wow! Like everyone else has already explained, I thought it was pretty clear that Alex’s comments were him explaining...
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Just to add my two cents. You can understand and have sympathy for his POV without condoning his actions. I speak from...
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Dude, he’s an actor, he always has to find a way to get his characters or he should change his job. Next time try to...
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since many of his fans think of him as more than just a “hot guy” most of your argument is invalid. AND being “feminist”...
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jesus, are you kidding me with the whole, ‘he needs to find some sort of connection to his character’ shit? there are...
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it’s not really as if they don’t know each other. They have been in a relationship. The lack of communication really...
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